What is irritating is when you get the call from HR, and the HR rep considers him/herself to be an expert negotiator, and refuses to give you any indication of salary range at all, but instead demands your salary history. Having worked as a consultant for several years, I've made anywhere from 48K to 110K per year, depending on client and project. If you tell the HR rep 48K (extreme low end, taken when times were tight), they presume you will accept 46K for the incredible opportunity of working for their magnificient company. If you tell them 100K, they say "Thank you" and you fall into the Black Hole. I recently had an HR rep tell me, off off off off off off OFF the record, that I lost a position due to my age, which is 45. Companies, she explained, no longer seem to want long term employees who want a stable environment they can retire from. Companies want young, super-charged, degreed certified test-passers who are also self-styled genuises that come in, put in 3-5 years, and move on so the parent company does not have to pay retirement benefits. Face it guys....it's an EmployERS market right now, and they damn sure know it. > -----Original Message----- > From: El C0chin0 [mailto:mr.nastyat_private] > Sent: Thursday, September 19, 2002 8:37 AM > To: securityjobsat_private > Subject: Salary Cap's PLEASE! > > > > > I would like to ask a favor of all you IT InfoSec Recruiters > out there > > using this message board to post jobs. Over the past year > I've read most > > of the job postings. I've submitted resumes only to be asked > if I can > > make gold from sand. I'm usually asked for my salary > expectations and > > then never hear back from them or the employer. > > > > I would appreciate it if the perspective employer wants an entry or > > intermediate level person that they also include their salary > cap. This > > will allow others like me who read through the pie in the sky > expectations > > within the job description and duties to determine the range > of expertise > > the employer is seeking. > > > > Please post a salary cap. Everyone here should not send a > resume in for a > > job unless they send you their salary range. I realize jobs > are hard to > > come by these days but if we allow the current economy to low > ball our > > experience we'll soon be accepting jobs for a few bucks over > minimum wage. > >
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